Still 25 thou......? ?

[monty]

a piece of bluetac in a socket also works to keep nut ,plu ,bung, temporarily in place, also for screws onto screwdriver

[Stoney13]

i use a universal socket the one that fits any bolt or nut its the one with all the round bits inside, it fits and grips !!! you can find these on ebay very cheaply

[philcwebb]

i use a universal socket the one that fits any bolt or nut its the one with all the round bits inside, it fits and grips !!! you can find these on ebay very cheaply

Now why didn't I think about that - I have one - looks brand new as I think I used it once about 10 years ago - and strangely I know exactly where it is!